Çà÷åì ìû ïðåäïî÷èòàåì âêóñíóþ åäó íåâêóñíîé? ×òî áû ïîëó÷èòü óäîâîëüñòâèå, à íå òîëüêî ïðèòóïèòü ÷óâñòâî ãîëîäà. Çà÷åì ñëóøàòü ØÏ áåëûé øóì, åñëè ìîæíî ñëóøàòü ýôèð áåç øèïåíèÿ â ò.÷. íà ÷àñòîòàõ âûøå 3-4 êÃö?
Çà÷åì ìû ïðåäïî÷èòàåì âêóñíóþ åäó íåâêóñíîé? ×òî áû ïîëó÷èòü óäîâîëüñòâèå, à íå òîëüêî ïðèòóïèòü ÷óâñòâî ãîëîäà. Çà÷åì ñëóøàòü ØÏ áåëûé øóì, åñëè ìîæíî ñëóøàòü ýôèð áåç øèïåíèÿ â ò.÷. íà ÷àñòîòàõ âûøå 3-4 êÃö?
Îòëè÷íàÿ òåìà! Äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñðåäè íàñ åùå ìíîãî îñòàëîñü òåõ,êòî íå ðàññòàëñÿ ñ ïàÿëüíèêîì è ïðèáîðàìè è óâàæàåò( íå ëþáëþ ñëîâî íîñòàëüãèðóåò) òåõíèêó,âûïóùåííóþ ìíîãî ëåò íàçàä. Õîòåëîñü-áû êàê-òî ïîääåðæèâàòü èíôîðìàöèîííî ýòó òåìàòèêó. Íàâåðíÿêà ó íàñ åñòü ìíîãîå,÷òî ñêàçàòü,÷åì ïîäåëèòüñÿ. Äëÿ ñðàâíåíèÿ ñìîòðèòå âå÷íóþ òåìó"Ñòðîèì UW3DI"
Âîïðîñ. Êòî-íèáóäü çàíèìàëñÿ ìîäåðíèçàöèåé TS-820-ãî? ßâëÿåòñÿ ïðåäøåñòâåííèêîì TS-830,íî ñ îäíèì ïðåîáðàçîâàíèåì(8830 êãö) è , ïî-ìîåìó,ñäåëàí äîáðîòíåå,íî ýòî ëè÷íîå ìíåíèå.
Ñîáðàë ëèíåéêó R-820 è TS-820S,õîæó âîêðóã è "ðóêè ÷åøóòñÿ" ÷òî-íèáóäü "ñâàðãàíèòü" ! .
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü RU9CA; 28.04.2025 â 07:04. Ïðè÷èíà: ï. 6.2
Âèíòàæíûå àïïàðàòû, êîíå÷íî, õîðîøè, íî ðåñóðñ ó íèõ, óâû, íå áåñêîíå÷íûé.  ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ýòî îòíîñèòñÿ, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, ê ãàëåòíûì ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëÿì. Áûâàåò, ÷òî îíè ïîäâîäÿò è ïðîñòûå ìåòîäû èõ î÷èñòêè ìîãóò íå ïðèâåñòè ê äîëãîâðåìåííîìó âîññòàíîâëåíèþ ðàáîòîñïîñîáíîñòè. Ïðèõîäèòñÿ èñïîëüçîâàòü õèðóðãè÷åñêèå ìåòîäû- âûïàéêà ïëàò ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëåé ñ äàëüíåéøåé ìåõàíè÷åñêîé î÷èñòêîé è ïîäïðàâëåíèåì äåôåêòíûõ êîíòàêòíûõ ëàìåëåé.  ÷àñòíîñòè, ó TS-830S áûëè îáíàðóæåíû óãëîâûå ñäâèãè íåêîòîðûõ ëàìåëåé ïî ïðè÷èíå ïðîâîðîòà â îñëàáøèõ êðåïåæíûõ ïèñòîíàõ. Óñòðàíÿåòñÿ äåôåêò ïàéêîé ëàìåëåé ê ïå÷àòíîé äîðîæêå. Íî, ñïðàâåäëèâîñòè ðàäè íàäî îòìåòèòü âïîëíå äîáðîòíûå ñåðåáðÿíûå ïîêðûòèÿ êîíòàêòíûõ ïëîùàäîê, íå èñòåðøèåñÿ çà 30 ëåò ýêñïëóàòàöèè àïïàðàòà. Óâû, íå óäàëîñü çàãðóçèòü ôîòî èñïðàâëåííûõ êîíòàêòíûõ ïëàò ââèäó ïðåâûøåíèÿ ëèìèòà äëÿ èíôîðìàöèîííîãî îáúåìà ïðèëîæåíèÿ.
Äîáàâëåíî ÷åðåç 23 ìèíóò(û):
Âîò, âñå æå, óäàëîñü ðàçìåñòèòü îäèí ñíèìîê ïå÷àòíîé êîíòàêòíîé ïëàòû.
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü RA3BA; 08.04.2013 â 13:38.
 820ì êîìïðåññîð ðàáîòàåò íà ÷àñòîòå 455 è â ñåðâèñ ìàíóàëå îøèáêà. Âîò ïðàâèëüíàÿ ïðîöåäóðà.
I'm having trouble aligning the speech processor on my TS-820S. Are there any tricks to the alignment procedure?
Glad that you asked - I just completed one recently. The speech processor in a customer's TS-820S was sounding weak and "thin." I took out Kenwood's alignment procedure and started in on setting it up properly. In the 820 model, Kenwood added RF speech processing. They convert the low level audio from the mic to RF, utilize RF clipping and compression, and then convert it back to audio and inject it back into the audio chain. 455 KHz ceramic bandpass filters are used to tailor the frequency response of the audio signal, and this combination ends up producing great sounding speech processing that sounds better than most everything out there, right up to the present.http://www.k4eaa.com/faq.htm
The part of the Kenwood alignment instructions to deep-six is the first step, where you adjust the processor oscillator to 451.4 KHz. Instead, inject a 0.3mv 1 KHz audio signal into the mic input, and adjust TC4 (the oscillator frequency control) for maximum signal at TP2. You have to get the audio into the filter passband first, where you can see it, and in this rig, and probably many others, 451.4 KHz didn't cut it - There was no signal making it through at all.
Once you have 1 KHz solidly on the scope, go ahead and peak the 455 KHz transformers as the alignment procedure dictates. Then change the audio injection frequency to 300 Hz and adjust TC4 for -6db, or half the voltage. That places the audio signal correctly in the passband of the ceramic filters. You will have to go back & forth a few times between 1 KHz and 300 Hz, until 300 Hz is exactly half the voltage of the 1 Khz signal measured at TP2 - That's the -6db point, as Kenwood intended. Lastly, adjust VR7 so there's no difference in TP2 signal level when you turn the processor on and off.
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Äîáàâëåíî ÷åðåç 10 ìèíóò(û):
Íåò, ìåõàíè÷åñêàÿ î÷èñòêà, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, ñëèøêîì ãðóáî. ß ïîäñìîòðåë òåõíîëîãèþ, êàê ëþäè ðåñòàâðèðóþò ïîäîáíûå àïïàðàòû, ãëàâíîå èìåòü êðåïêèå íåðâûÏëàòà ñ áàíäñâèò÷åì ñíèìàåòñÿ öåëèêîì è çàìà÷èâàåòñÿ â ðàñòâîðå ñðåäñòâà äëÿ ìîéêè ïîñóäû Ïàëìîëèâ, òèïà Ôåéðè, íî ïîìÿã÷å. Çà÷åì âñå ïðîìûâàåòñÿ ïðîòî÷íîé âîäîé, ñóøèòñÿ è êîíòàêòû ïîêðûâàþòñÿ ñðåäñòâîì DeoxIT® D-Series D5. Ïîìîãàåò îòëè÷íî, ïðîâåðèë íà íåñêîëüêèõ àïïàðàòàõ.
Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü VE3EUT; 12.09.2013 â 07:24.
Åñëè ýòà ëèíåéêà ðàáîòàåò , òî åñòü ïðåäëîæåíèå òîëüêî õîäèòü , à "ïî÷åñàòü â äðóãîì ìåñòå"(Ñ) ×ÂÑ è òåì áîëåå , ÷òî òî ñ íèìè "âàðãàíèòü"
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè , ÷òî â ñòàðûõ ðàáîòàþùèõ àïïàðàòàõ ìîæíî "ìîäåðíèçèðîâàòü " ? Íè÷åãî ! Äîñòàòî÷íî èõ ïîääåðæèâàòü â ðàáîòîñïîñîáíîì ñîñòîÿíèè è âñå , ñìûñëà íèêàêîãî íåò. Ïî ïîâîäó íàçâàíèÿ òåìû àíåêäîò :
Äåäóøêà ïðèõîäèò ê äîêòîðó ïîñîâåòîâàòüñÿ íà ïðåäìåò ïîìîùè êîðíÿ æåíüøåíÿ â âîçâðàùåíèè ýðåêöèè , äîêòîð ïîäòâåðäèë , ÷òî î÷åíü ïîìîãàåò , åñëè åãî ïðèâÿçàòü âìåñòî..
Ïîêà îíè ðàáîòàþò -íå÷åãî äàæå êðûøêè îòêðûâàòü , öåëåå áóäóò!
Âèòàëèé
Èìåííî òàê. Áîëåå òîãî, êîãäà ÿ ÷èòàþ î ïåðåäåëêàõ âûõîäíîãî êàñêàäà íà ÃÓ-19, ìíå íå ïî ñåáå. Êîìïëåêò 6146 ñòîèò 50 áàêñîâ ïëþñ 10 áàêñîâ äðàéâåð 12BY7. Íåóæåëè íóæíî èç çà íåñêîëüêèõ áàêñîâ ýêîíîìèè êóðî÷èòü òàêîé àïïàðàò? Ýòî æå êëàññèêà.
Åñëè ýòà ëèíåéêà ðàáîòàåò , òî åñòü ïðåäëîæåíèå òîëüêî õîäèòü , à "ïî÷åñàòü â äðóãîì ìåñòå"(Ñ) ×ÂÑ è òåì áîëåå , ÷òî òî ñ íèìè "âàðãàíèòü"
Ìîæíî è ïîâåæëèâåå íàñ÷åò "....ïî÷åñàòü â äðóãîì ìåñòå"
Ñ R-820 åñòü ïðîáëåìû,êòî-íèáóäü èìååò ýòî " ÷óäî"?
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè! Êàê â 830s îòêðûòü WARC band-s íà ïåðåäà÷ó?
Ìîæåò çäåñü ãäå è íàïèñàíî,íî óæ áîëüíî êîïîòíî,øàðèòü ñèäåòü
ïðîñòî íåò âðåìåíè! Âñåì 73!
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